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thalassino ([personal profile] thalassino) wrote in [community profile] vatheonooc2012-09-09 09:43 pm
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☆ BONUS! Name one pro and one con of your RPing that you've noticed as of late.
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[personal profile] chosen_gigolo 2012-09-10 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Zelos Wilder | [personal profile] chosen_gigolo | Tales of Symphonia | Personal HMD

Pro: I feel I still have his voice strongly and he's finally got some good female CR, both significant and superfluous.

Con: I'm paranoid that his development into having male friends outside his canon isn't an obvious journey from points A to B and it will be viewed as ooc.


Dark Link (Sola) | [personal profile] replicatedcourage | The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time | Personal HMD

Pro: He's really branching out and making some friends. I'm also really pleased at the feedback about him using Troll jargon. People seem to like it, and I love that he's developed so much from his experiences here in Vatheon.

Con: He cries. A lot. I feel like this is a problem but also he's still technically only a year or so old so... I don't know.
Edited 2012-09-10 06:51 (UTC)
relinquishing: (☼ your darkest moments)

[personal profile] relinquishing 2012-09-10 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as Zelos' friendships go:

Are friendships ever an obvious journey to begin with? :P
But no, if you're worried about it being OOC, just look over things from a broader perspective. What kind of interactions has he had with other men, and is what Zelos defining as a "friend" in the Lloyd category or just something else entirely? Is he struggling? Is it for appearances? Does he need to be a little more flippant about things simply because of the new reality of having male acquaintances?

I'm rusty on Symphonia canon so I can't really offer a "HERE GO FIX THIS" line of thought or whatever. Just, if you're worried, dig around a little. Zelos is a complex character anyways, and just coming from one of those male CR peeps, he's still pretty aloof and avoidant and awkward sometimes. So it's not like he's suddenly attached to the hip with other men (I'd be really concerned about OOC matters in that case).

IDK, give yourself a little more credit, and do some fine-tuning if it really does bother you. Make it an exercise in exploring Zelos more, rather than "FUCK I'M DOING IT WRONG". :)
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[personal profile] chosen_gigolo 2012-09-10 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad that's gotten across with Guy at least? It's not that I feel it is ooc, I know what Zelos is thinking and I know he's still having a hard time with it considering he has every trust issue in the psychological textbook, but I feel that sometimes I don't type it out as well as I should. For instance, his being a "good boss" for the host club employees or his friendship with Ioder. I know those came from his needing to bolster himself after having a dry spell for so long and from doing Estelle a favor and watching over her cousin respectively, but I worry that I don't get it across in the bracket text.

Or should I even worry about that? Should that be something internalized that'll come out if development reveals it? I really don't know.
relinquishing: (☽Seven devils in your house)

[personal profile] relinquishing 2012-09-10 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, would it be obvious to people that didn't know him well enough, or would it just come across as him simply being bold, energetic and a little impulsive in his ideas? Or in the case of Ioder, would the awkwardness of it being a simple favor of respect ever show itself? Is it Zelos' nature to hide that, or would Ioder ever be able to pick up on the fact tha Zelos has more reason behind this friendship than just being friends?

The man is full of facades - what he projects and what he really intends can be two different things without it being "bad". Just trying to hear your processing.
Edited 2012-09-10 17:54 (UTC)
chosen_gigolo: (Sigh)

[personal profile] chosen_gigolo 2012-09-10 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it's sort of a constant war between my wanting things to come across in a ic manner and Zelos' uncanny ability to hide, like, everything. It was mentioned in brackets in Ioder and Zelos' initial thread and hasn't really been addressed since, though he has come to like Ioder in his own right an cares in spite of himself, especially since Ioder's relatively recent stabbing.

I think I may just need to keep on his emotional development in brackets. I don't feel it's suffering in his actions at all, I just thing Zelos needs to come with footnotes. At the same time, giving too much away in brackets encourages other muns to figure him out so I'm a bit at a loss.
relinquishing: (☼ Here to relive)

[personal profile] relinquishing 2012-09-10 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Na, I have the same problem with Guy. It's understandable.

I guess it's just a matter of who you want to have development with at what times. There's nothing wrong with keeping the brackets simplified or vague or even nonexistent if it's a stranger or someone Zelos doesn't really want to be open around. No need to be paranoid or anything - I think it's fine to vary it based on his relationships with people, and you're doing okay with that. :)